Although it may not look as cool, I kind of think its performance as a compensator would be perfect with just a single port on top or three, smaller ports totaling about the same surface area (or anti-surface area, I suppose) as one of these. Percentage reduction divided by dollars. Length:2.35 WAY delayed from when I intended to do it, but it will be happening late this month. Weight:2.56 oz Dont necessarily disparage a company just because it is british. Sorry. On the top of that blast chamber theres a pair of holes, designed to vent gas upwards to combat muzzle rise. They have definitely clustered with their peers! If you were to conduct another round of muzzle device tests, would you please include a Dynamic Resistance device on the list. For next test including 308, please include the ever popular American precision Arms Gen II Fat in the list. Diameter(at largest point): 0.877 b. Diameter(at largest point): 0.86 I was really shocked to see the Lantac Dragon not do so hot considering just about everybody in just about every forum touts it as the absolute best. Diameter(at largest point): 1.00 Recoil. Flash appeared quite low. With rare exception, SilencerCos (and other suppressor companies) muzzle devices that act as QD mounts for a suppressor are otherwise functionally identical to the non-QD mount ones. Precision Armaments M4-72 Severe-Duty Compensator! Glad to see the J-comp held up well this time also, will some of the hybrid devices like the J-comp make it into the flash hider episode? Select: * Quantity: +-Add to cart. Also no surefire brakes, whats up with that? The first 5.56 muzzle brake test is HERE, the third is HERE, the first 5.56 flash hiding test HERE, the second 5.56 flash hiding test HERE, and the first .308 brake test HERE. The magazine was in it just to lock the bolt back when I racked the charging handle and then to act as a sled so I could toss the next round into the ejection port, hit the bolt release, and be ready to go again. Contact Neal Brace The King Comp is new to the market from Strike Industries, and its a pretty cool looking brake. Ive also included a performance per dollar graph based on the first Muzzle Brake Shootout so these figures can be compared across both tests. Just curious why no brakes from American Precision Arms? Its not just my example, as it looks the same in Troys marketing material. it really helps cut through fancy advertisement videos and shed lights on what these things are truly capable of. Good muzzle control, but some muzzle flash out the front. Whatevers left over whatever rearwards movement the gun does successfully make is going to also induce rotation IF theres more mass under the bore than over (a heavy optic might balance it out, for example, or an empty vs. full magazine will change things). I have fired this upper receiver from rests at 100 yards countless times with various things on the muzzle and the M4-72s presence on it turns in as accurate of groups as anything Ive ever had on the muzzle. Thats the purpose of that graph at the very very end. In the past, we compared 35 different AR-15 muzzle devices. Length:2.95 Why Choose Thunder Technologies' solution? I am not a scientist. Material: steel of some sort For now, onto the comparison of each entrant that joined us for Shootout #2! We have more new and innovative products coming soon too. a heavy magazine that causes the vertical center of mass to be like at the level of the bottom of the trigger guard), when it fires its going to rotate around the center of mass. Now, if you prevent the rifle from moving rearwards, the rifles inertia and center of mass are taken out of the equation and it wont rotate. The BCM by far is the best of bunch. Noticed in the slow mod there seemed to be a lot of differences in the barrel jump even when the recoil distances were close. That being said, just because Lantac is the hottest selling item doesnt make it the best. http://www.jlbillet.com. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Recoil Eliminator was in the first muzzle device shootout. To sight corrections (albight relatively minor) to make in your write up: 1.) Mitigate muzzle jump and felt recoil with these Sako muzzle devices for the 85, A7, TRG, and other like . Weve got a brake that we would be interested in seeing where it falls on your scale. The slow-mo footage on this one is definitely worth watching. The great thing about the industry is that it never stays still and we can always improve. And on that note Im looking at getting the AFAB, but their website states not to use crush washers, so Im curious how do you have it secured to your barrel? Again, of course, thats only on straight recoil reduction. But mostly I wouldnt shoot the gun unless it was truly necessary, or Id carry ear pro with me. The effectiveness of the M4-72, and every other brake we have tried was not relevant until the ability to maintain sight picture and make a follow up shot was observed. This will look like muzzle rise just as much as it looks like butt stock drop, but its really just rotation that has nothing at all to do with any sort of upwards force at the muzzle or upwards force from the action. Diameter(at largest point): 0.81 I usually do work with the Remington 700 rifle for guys who shoot Fclass and big game hunters. For a competition gun, Id go with something more aggressive on the recoil reduction front and wouldnt give a crap about concussion or flash (as long as the flash is to the sides and not in my sight picture). The author has done a great amount of valuable work. Q. Cherry Bomb Muzzle Brake $100.00. Not sure if something like the AFAB would be best, or if theres something with less blast thats almost as good in steadying the muzzle. The CB break is not only smaller than the previous BA muzzle break, it also preforms better. Troys Claymore doesnt really belong in this roundup, as its the only one with no design consideration for reducing recoil. If you have a reliable contact for them let me know, as Id happily include one or two in the next test if theyll donate or loan them. . MSRP:no longer available (was $109.95). Length:2.12 Better than some of the less expensive SI products and probably nicer than Id expect at this price point. Has the Saker Trifecta Brake been tested and I missed it? The rig youre using should have a white/black square grid behind it attached to the rig and the rig should be weighted enough not to move. . I know testing is slow & difficult. Ill try to get a Vais for the next round. I could come up with a more complex rig thats on sliders (like drawer sliders) or wheels or whatever, but then Id have to add springs or a hanging weight/pendulum to bring it to a stop at the rear and capture that peak distance before it returned forwards, etc etc. Add to cart. Material: 1144 stressproof steel Material: stainless steel Wondering if you have any advise on it? Same with most neighbors on the range. Am I the only one who saw the Ares Breathe and thought Oh, thats the guts of a suppressor just waiting for the can? Alas, it came in sixth, just a hair behind the JP. He may be an unknown user, but that doesnt mean hes not right. British Engineering? Additionally, as seen in the third photo above, internal serrated ribs on the first blast baffle catch and disrupt gasses to reduce flash/sound/concussion. We are family owned and operated, and serving our clients since 2010. We got a SCAR 17 barrel in the shop so we tested every muzzle device that we sell. Quick question though Thunder technologies doesnt list a standard brake on their website. I have both of these and would like to see how they stack up to the rest! For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Strong North American Presence. The Cherry Bomb by Q is a Quickie Fast-Attach muzzle brake compatible with the THUNDER CHICKEN and trash PANDA silencers by Q. In fact from rounds 5-10 I noticed each shot feeling softer and it concussion coming down. For mine it was around 20 rounds. MGW is a proud carrier of quality Midwest Industries muzzle devices that are designed to give you that competitive edge. Still no SJC Titan? Variable Port Recoil-reduction: Any tests with this? I purchased PA M4-72 for my most recent build. Live Chat Live Chat. The 'Smuzzle' is a hybrid suppressor/muzzle brake that reduces recoil, sound and flash for machine guns. Dead Air Armament. I am just wondering if you have ever got your hands on a GemTech Jake break for the muzzle brake test, and on your next flash hider will you be testing AAC Brakeout 2.0? I was going to buy the DPMS at first, but then my Tavor group swore by the lantac dragon. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Thunder Beast Arms CB Muzzle Brake, .223, 1/2x28 at the best online prices at eBay! On the other hand, it might provide ideas for companies to mass produce something similar or take design queues from, etc. Despite my assumption that it was going to drive the muzzle down, compensation actually seems pretty much spot-on and recoil reduction is much better than I expected from a brake with such small chambers. Any interest? Weight:3.05 oz Victor's Quality Motors, family owned and operated by Victor' and Sons, Mike and Rocky. Jeremy, Thank you for posting this review. Mitigate muzzle jump and recoil with these devices from . Then using the high speed camera, check for flexion in the 24 barrel. For the small size and weight, Thunder Techs brakes perform like crazy. If the 3 baffle brakes outperform the 2 baffle brakes as a class, I wonder if 4 baffle brakes would be better or just gianter 3 baffle brakes. It won again! It is a reverse gill compensator which designs are good for pure impulse control but lousy for accuracy, and rear ward blast, and unpredictable dot patterns and long return to zero times. Its good for some fiery show and sufficient concussion thump to shock and awe bystanders. When it came down to buying ones that I couldnt borrow or get donated by the manufacturer, it just wasnt at the top of that list (ranked by most requests). Brakes on the pink background have 3 or more chambers (the only more is the Seekins), compensators designed with lots of little ports, whether holes or slots, but no baffles at all other than at the muzzle, are on a yellow background. Like to see you add in barrel jump. The Merlin engine that made the pretty good Mustang Mk.I into the awesome P-51B/C. Additionally, the raw data seen in the table can be downloaded as an Excel doc by clicking here. I would think not, and so did not buy one, got a flash suppressor mount for a suppressor. The greater this offset the greater the muzzle rise (that needs compensation). Weight:3.65 oz I would be happy to lend you a couple of rare and discontinued brakes from AWC for testing and study if you are interested for the 3rd part of this test. I have an m&p15 that came without a break or flash suppressor. ), Not a scheme so much as just combining results from both tests into Excel and spitting out the chart. Admittedly, Im being selfish. Diameter(at largest point): 0.975 While the machining and finish are really great, I cant really advise anybody to consider purchasing this brake under any circumstance other than as a display item. The Thunder Beast CB "Compact Brake" for use on TBAC CB series suppressors: Ultra 9, Ultra 7, Ultra 5, 30CB9, 30CB7, 30CB5, and 223CB. Unfortunately I didnt realize. Next to the shooter? Thunder Beast: 30CB Muzzle Brake, 5/8x24 - .30 cal Thunder Beast. Based on your VERY comprehensive write up, I could go back and enter all the info manually and figure this ratio myself, but Im lazy!! I agree that in a muzzle device Im really looking for the least muzzle movement. Recoil Technologies "Walker" Steel Flash Can, 1/2x28, Black Oxide Muzzle Brake. Yeah, you could invent a hundred others. Material: 316 stainless steel It would be interesting to see a test where the top 5 or so where tested with high versus low gas volume. Thats not the only way to prevent the rifle from moving rearwards, though. As it was also SI things that fit the CRD in the last test (other than the FERFRANS brake itself), Im fairly confident saying the King Comp will also. So its a strong maybe. The asking price should be adjusted to reflect this and, indeed, Troys options are on the affordable end of the spectrum with many linear comps coming in over 2x the price. Finish:pakerized Diameter(at largest point): 0.875 Jeremy, I think I got a good way to test muzzle rise. MSRP:$49.99. Performance is also nothing short of incredible given the extremely compact size and light weight. I live in South Texas and carry my rifle on my ranch everywhere I go. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Hey TTAG, if I had a muzzle device professionally modified, and I sent it to you would you test it? I havent been successful in the past. It looks like theyre calling the standard brake the heartbreak, and what you have listed as the heartbreak (in your tests) theyre calling the persuader. 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